Thursday, October 28, 2010

Creationists: When did God grant us the gift of fire?

I can find no mention of it in the Bible or Qu'ran. To quote a Christian ';fire is very much a symbol that God uses to communicate characteristics of Him; of His Spirit';, so in the Bible fire = Holy Spirit.



The ability to control fire was a major change in the habits of early humans. Making fire to generate heat and light made it possible for people to cook food, increasing the variety and availability of nutrients. The heat produced would also help people stay warm in cold weather, enabling them to live in cooler climates. Fire also kept nocturnal predators at bay.



Evidence of cooked food is found from 1.9 million years ago, although fire was probably not used in a controlled fashion until 400,000 years ago.



Evidence becomes widespread around 50 to 100 thousand years ago, suggesting regular use from this time; interestingly, resistance to air pollution started to evolve in human populations at a similar point in time.



The use of fire became progressively more sophisticated, with it being used to create charcoal and to control wildlife from 'tens of thousands' of years ago.



The titan Prometheus gave man fire on two separate occasions. He gave man fire on the first account because his brother Epimetheus had run out of gifts while creating all the animals, however when Zeus was angered by being tricked out of the best in sacrifice he took fire away. Prometheus then went and retrieved fire from the sun and gave it back to man. For that Zeus punished him by having an eagle eat his liver repeatedly.



So how does Creationism explain how %26amp; when humans first used fire?Creationists: When did God grant us the gift of fire?
God created fire when he created everything else, so Adam and Eve probably used it - maybe when they left the garden.



Fire isn't equal with the Holy Spirit - they aren't the same thing. This Christian you speak of was saying fire was a good metaphor, a way of showing the Holy Spirit. I don't exactly know what they meant by that, but whatever it was, it didn't literally mean fire and the Holy Spirit are the same thing.



How can you find evidence of food being cooked 1.9 million years ago? I find that a very laughable idea, sorry if it insults anyone, but it's laughable.Creationists: When did God grant us the gift of fire?
i'm pretty sure it was lucifer the light-bearer who is said to have brought us fire.
Prometheus rules.
Adam was created will the same amount of intelligence as a modern-day person(possibly even more-so). The earliest mention of fire in the Bible is implied in Genesis 4:22:



';And as for Zillah, she also bore Tubal-Cain, an instructor for every craftsman in bronze and Iron. And the sister of Tubal-Cain was Naamah.';



Obviously in order to make things out bronze or iron, you need to use fire in one way or another.



Mankind was created with the full mental potential we have today. In those days, living in a worldwide paradise(compared to today at least), living 900 years or more, mankind was capable of learning much more than today. Only in the past 50 years, due to the invention of computers, has mankind been able to overcome the obstacle of learning brought by today's 70-year lifespan.
The Saturday Night after the first Sabbath. That is why Jews make a blessing on fire at the Havdala ceremony.

Not everything is in the Bible openly.

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